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    21CN Confused?

    This is a discussion on 21CN Confused? within the Sky Broadband exchange information forums, part of the Sky Broadband help and support category; spent all the money so us lot will have to pay for it......

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      Re: 21CN Confused?

      spent all the money so us lot will have to pay for it...
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      Re: 21CN Confused?

      Quote Originally Posted by Undecided Adrian View Post
      I thought though Gordon Brown had the big idea as one of his make work schemes to put in fibre in at the last mile.

      Or has he spent all his money on the banks and left none on a project that people would actually benefit from.
      Forget it! Telewest and NTL both effectively went bust over the cost of laying fiber in UK streets and even they don't do Fiber to the home. All they do is Fiber to a distribution box at the end of each Street - It is copper from there onwards. Better than copper from the exchange but still not ideal.

      The UK road network was designed for carts and horses which makes laying fiber a nightmare. Much of it has to be hand dug to get round the mess of utility installations (Don't forget that most countries don't have piped gas as well as the usual water, sewerage and phone and electricity cables) not to mention tree roots. In the USA where they have wide streets, most of which are 20th century in origin, the problem is nothing like as complex and therefore expensive. Gordy has spent the money so the UK will have to survive on the information backwater a while longer.

      Someone started a trial to lay fiber in the sewers in Brighton but I think even this failed. I am not holding my breath!

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      Re: 21CN Confused?

      if so i'd like to know who?

      i grew up in the 90's when they were digging up every single road to lay lines for ADSL Broadband...
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      Re: 21CN Confused?

      The fibre in sewer project is based on the paris roll out and they are going full steam over there and every lampost will have a wi-fi access point on it.

      Over here a company or a big organisation can have installed, I think a few universities are having it done, but we are doing pilot schemes where the french have just rolled it out.
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      Re: 21CN Confused?

      Quote Originally Posted by samperry209 View Post
      i grew up in the 90's when they were digging up every single road to lay lines for ADSL Broadband...
      I don't think so. ADSL uses a bog standard phone line and they'll have already been there. Maybe they were laying cable (NTL)?

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      Re: 21CN Confused?

      There has been a major roll out of gas and water lines in the last 20 years across the country, replacing metal pipes with plastic, most likely it would have been one of those upgrades.
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      Re: 21CN Confused?

      nah it was cable and wireless...

      because i had a good old nynex box

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      Re: 21CN Confused?

      FibreCity are beginning to lay fibre to home in Bournemouth (and Dundee) using the sewer system.

      They'll run cable to your home, and from what I gather, they'll be selling access to their network, so we may see BT or VM services coming through FibreCity fibre.

      Fibrecity Bournemouth. A Fibre City

      As far as I know, 21CN is basically an upgrade of BTs Backbone, if BT ever want to launch VDSL, they'll need a damn good network to support it.

     

     
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