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    Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

    This is a discussion on Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go? within the Polls forums, part of the Website news category; If Sky were to partner with Phorm, would you leave Sky Broadband? There has been much debate over the internet ...

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      Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      If Sky were to partner with Phorm, would you leave Sky Broadband?

      There has been much debate over the internet the last few days about Phorm and ISP's who will capture your browsing habits and in turn sell this in turn for a Revenue Share of targeted Adverts.

      There is a great thread already discussing this here

      http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-b...t-trouble.html




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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      I'd absolutely go, I'd pay double the price just to avoid this privacy invasion by some shady company run by a former-spam-shyster.

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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      It's coming one way or another, Sky are, apparantly, already considering this and/or other targeted advertising methods. Here's the best wording I've seen on the subject,

      "At 06:24 PM on 06 Mar 2008, James Firth wrote:
      As an IT consultant with many years' experience in telecommunications for both military and civilian customers I am horrified not by the concept of profiling, nor by the bulk of Phorm's specific implementation, but by the precedent this sets: giving a third party access to a highly sensitive and personal stream of data. It's more analogous to the Royal Mail opening every letter, writing down your preferences, resealing the letter and sending it on again. An ISP is in a uniquely trusted position and the blueprint for the planned system, which I've seen in leaked documents, provides an infrastructure capable of much more sinister applications. Most countries have had laws governing interception of communications for many years and to my mind for good reason. It amazes me how privacy advocates can endorse a system that uses at it's heart technology frighteningly similar to that used by oppressive regimes to track its subjects' every web transaction
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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      Quote Originally Posted by greyrider View Post
      It's coming one way or another, Sky are, apparantly, already considering this and/or other targeted advertising methods.[/I]."

      No Phorm.

      Hopefully, members will also post when an ISP declares they
      will NOT use Phorm or similar systems.
      That will make it easier to draw up a shortlist of where to
      move to.
      As soon as someone hears of one, I hope that SkyUser
      member will start a new thread.

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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      The wider issue of data intrusion is beginning to render the internet less usable.

      I now avoid Google (for example) because I am fed up that whatever I search for, an idiot message comes up trying to sell some to me, before I can get to look at relevant results.

      At the same time commerce does its best to obstruct our use of data in its own interests.

      Example -- a Korean friend bought a Sony camera in London and had some trouble with the English manual. Tried to download the manual from Sony site in Korea, only to be told she couldn't because she hadn't bought the camera in Korea. Apparently they have issues there with grey imports trying to avoiding Sony's local pricing structure. In her position, I would have called Sony UK and told them I was taking the camera back to the shop for a refund unless they could persuade the Korean branch to be reasonable.

      We need to resist these trends as citizens via politics but perhaps the most direct course is to vote with our wallets. Boycott companies that try to exploit you and tell them why.

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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      The only other large scale intrusion of the web that I can think of is the great firewall of China which will only let in selected web pages from outaside China, they have bbc.co.uk etc blocked from entering china.

      I cannot believe that this is not going to be challenged in the courts!!!

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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      No I would leave because correct me if I am wrong the indidual user as the option werther to opt out of this.

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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      Apparently you can only opt out of the targeted marketing the diversion of your internet connection will still be in place and according to the Guardian article talk talk and Virgin are even deciding if there will be an opt out al all!
      I'm a PC, and Windows 7 Backup saved my sanity when BitDefender imploded !!!

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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      Quote Originally Posted by Alan b View Post
      No I would leave because correct me if I am wrong the indidual user as the option werther to opt out of this.
      Your data is still sent I believe, and worse it only uses a cookie to hide these targetted ads - so you'd have to specifically opt out on every browser/computer you have, and make sure the cookie never goes.

      We must never accept this, out of interest where is the server where all our data is sent located? I have a feeling its in America, last thing we need is good old George Dubya Gump looking through it.

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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      It's in China I beleive.

      It's not going to happen believe me. These ISP's involved had made a serious **** up.

      RIPA is being contravened in every pssoible way and it can only be down to stupidity of the marketting departments putting income over legalities.

      I hope they get their ass sued.
      Oh and the ******** about their 'anonymizer' software taking out sensitive information, well I've been a programmer for 15 years and believe me that simply is not possible in a cast iron 100% way.

      Slim

     

     
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