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    Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

    This is a discussion on Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go? within the Polls forums, part of the Website news category; SOMEONE'S WATCHING YOU Pity there is no mention of Phorm, but still an interesting read..... BBC NEWS | Magazine | ...

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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      SOMEONE'S WATCHING YOU

      Pity there is no mention of Phorm,
      but still an interesting read.....


      BBC NEWS | Magazine | Someone's watching you

      "Isn't there something wrong about helping yourself to the private e-mails of politicians, the private text messages of footballers, the private phone calls of... you fill in the blanks."***
      "Most of us are capable of grasping that if everyone could suddenly read everyone else's thoughts then very few people would survive the subsequent massacre, which would effectively bring civilisation to an end." -Clive James
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      *** Every search, every click, every stroke on my computer. -murdock
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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      Can you spell "ECHELON"?

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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      I only take a step back from using the internet for few days whilst I replay final fantasy 8 and all of sudden I come on to find some that my browsing habits or to be spyed up on to target me with pacific ads. Well I say removed that and removed them, if that happens Im off. This is just a way to target piracy on the internet ie torrents not to sell people rubbish as it be much easier for them to go u downloaded this you owe us this and that.

      Its all money, money, money, Corporate removed.
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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      The Foundation for Information Policy Research (FIPR), a leading government advisory group on internet issues, has written to the Information Commissioner arguing that Phorm's ad targeting system is illegal.

      In an open letter posted to the think tank's website today, the group echoes concerns voiced by London School of Economics professor Peter Sommer that Phorm's planned partnerships with BT, Virgin Media and Carphone Warehouse are illegal und the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA).

      Gov advisors: Phorm is illegal | The Register




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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      I doubt it would be long before some enterprising company came up with a 'useable system' that encrypts data between the end users pc and a proxy server system using SSL thus rendering any data collected useless much like encrypted torrents.

      I know you can currently do this but they are next to useless speed wise.
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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      Sir Tim's thoughts on this:

      The creator of the web has said consumers need to be protected against systems which can track their activity on the internet.

      Sir Tim Berners-Lee told BBC News he would change his internet provider if it introduced such a system.

      BBC NEWS | Technology | Web creator rejects net tracking

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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      A spokesman for BT told BBC News: "Provided the customer has consented, we consider that there will generally be an implied consent from website owners.
      BBC NEWS | Technology | Phorm 'illegal' says policy group

      Let me make this clear....

      Phorm or BT - You do not have our consent!

      infact we feel that strong .......

      webwise.com has now been blocked from accessing this domain. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Phorm - I would rather accept Piratebay.org then you. And I am 100 percent against Piracy.

      We have also informed Phorm that we do not agree to them visiting our website.
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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      Nice one



      More...

      80/20's Privacy Impact Assessment is not as rosy as made out...

      BBC NEWS | Technology | Phorm needs 'better protection'

      http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technolo...20final%20.pdf



      Interesting & worrying:

      Some notes from the Phorm sales pitch



      Re. FIPR saying that Phorm needs the consent of *websites* as well as the Phorm-affected customers, to be able to comply with RIPA (as in their interpretation, *both* ends of the interception need to provide consent), is it also worth adding something to the SkyUser terms / legal stuff somewhere on the site... so it's clear that although legitimate things like search engine bots are allowed, interceptions by Phorm etc. are not? [So it's always there for all to see, if they ignore the contact sent to them about it]
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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      is it also worth adding something to the SkyUser terms / legal stuff somewhere on the site... so it's clear that although legitimate things like search engine bots are allowed, interceptions by Phorm etc. are not? [So it's always there for all to see, if they ignore the contact sent to them about it]
      We will implement this tomorrow.




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      Re: Phorm and Sky Broadband - Would you stay or go?

      Quote Originally Posted by Tezcatlipoca View Post
      Re. FIPR saying that Phorm needs the consent of *websites* as well as the Phorm-affected customers, to be able to comply with RIPA (as in their interpretation, *both* ends of the interception need to provide consent), is it also worth adding something to the SkyUser terms / legal stuff somewhere on the site... so it's clear that although legitimate things like search engine bots are allowed, interceptions by Phorm etc. are not? [So it's always there for all to see, if they ignore the contact sent to them about it]
      The following has now been added to our T and C's

      RIPA NOTICE: NO CONSENT IS GIVEN FOR INTERCEPTION OF PAGE TRANSMISSION

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