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    10 Years in Jail For Internet Pirates Now Reality in the UK

    This is a discussion on 10 Years in Jail For Internet Pirates Now Reality in the UK within the P2P / File sharing forums, part of the General chat category; https://torrentfreak.com/10-years-in...the-uk-170501/ Having received royal assent before the weekend, the UK's Digital Economy Bill is now law. As a result, Internet ...

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      10 Years in Jail For Internet Pirates Now Reality in the UK

      https://torrentfreak.com/10-years-in...the-uk-170501/
      Having received royal assent before the weekend, the UK's Digital Economy Bill is now law. As a result, Internet file-sharers can be jailed for up to ten years, if they knowingly make infringing content available to the public while exposing a copyright owner to even a risk of loss.

      In 2015, the UK Government announced a controversial plan to increase the maximum prison sentence for online copyright infringement from two to ten years. The proposal followed a suggestion put forward in a study commissioned by the UK Intellectual Property Office (IPO). The study concluded that criminal sanctions for online copyright infringement available under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (CDPA 1988) should be harmonized with ‘offline’ penalties, such as those available for counterfeiting.

      “By toughening penalties for commercial-scale online offending we are offering greater protections to businesses and sending a clear message to deter criminals,” then Intellectual Property Minister Baroness Neville-Rolfe said at the time.

      In July 2016, the government published a new draft of its Digital Economy Bill which duly proposed an extension of the current prison term of two years to a maximum of ten.

      Throughout the entire process of passing the legislation, the government has insisted that ‘regular’ members of the public would not be subjected to harsh punishments. However, that is not how the legislation reads.

      As detailed in our earlier article, anyone who makes infringing content available to the public while merely putting a copyright holder at risk of loss, is now committing a criminal offense.

      There are a number of variables, but this is the relevant part distilled down for the average file-sharer who downloads as well as uploads, using BitTorrent, for example.

      A person…who infringes copyright in a work by communicating the work to the public commits an offense if [the person] knows or has reason to believe that [they are] infringing copyright in the work, and…knows or has reason to believe that communicating the work to the public will cause loss to the owner of the copyright, or will expose the owner of the copyright to a risk of loss.

      Earlier this year, the Open Rights Group launched a campaign to try and make the government see sense. ORG did not dispute that there need to be penalties for online infringement but asked the government make amendments to target large-scale infringers while protecting the public.

      “Our proposal is to set a threshold of ‘commercial scale loss’, and revising ‘risk of loss’ to ‘serious risk of commercial scale loss’. These are flexible rather than ‘specific’,” ORG said.

      But the group’s appeals fell on deaf ears. No one in the law-making process was prepared to make this minor change to the Digital Economy Bill, even though legislation already exists for punishing even the smallest of copyright infringements through the civil courts.

      As a result, the bill received royal assent last week which means that the country’s millions of small-time copyright infringers are now criminals in the eyes of the law.

      Worst still, depending on the whims of copyright holders, any one could now be reported to the police for sharing even a single movie, an offense (as painted in our hypothetical piece in March) that could result in years in jail.

      The government says that won’t be allowed. We’ll see.


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      Re: 10 Years in Jail For Internet Pirates Now Reality in the UK

      They'll need to build a lot of prisons.

      How's the law these days for copying CD's or digital media to servers or flash cards? I do it all the time for my ICE, am I now a criminal?

      I know I have some criminal recordings but I don't think that counts.
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      Re: 10 Years in Jail For Internet Pirates Now Reality in the UK

      I think that this is a reflection of the corruption within today's Governments.

      I believe that they are taking money and being pressured from the various big film and music companies. Certainly the City of London Police is getting involved in multi-national crimes and chasing torrent sites hosted in countries other than the UK at their bequest.

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      Re: 10 Years in Jail For Internet Pirates Now Reality in the UK

      Corruption?

      I think it's more down to just good lobbying.
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      Re: 10 Years in Jail For Internet Pirates Now Reality in the UK

      Quote Originally Posted by marjohn56 View Post
      Corruption?

      I think it's more down to just good lobbying.
      Yes corruption.

      Lobbying by taking people to dinner. Paying for lots of treats.

      When the money is coming through a company that isn't declaring where all it's funds come from, yet it's often running into financial difficulties and people are saying it's coming from the big production companies (they just don't know how much), I would say that corruption is playing a big part.

      If the firm was to show exactly where it's money is coming from and how they were spending it then you could argue that they are being honest. Since they are hiding it, you have to ask why?

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      Re: 10 Years in Jail For Internet Pirates Now Reality in the UK

      You KNOW where the money is coming from, the production companies.

      However it still had to be voted through parliament. I find it hard to believe that ALL MP's and the non-elected HOL members are corrupt, there may be some that's true. If there was a hint of dodgy dealing going on that could be proven then someone would be screaming blue murder, especially coming up to an election.
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      Re: 10 Years in Jail For Internet Pirates Now Reality in the UK

      Professional Lobbyers don't target everyone. They target the key people who will be in a position to change political policies and push any legislation through Parliament.

      They will then produce and supply any supporting literature to support their one sided argument.

      Since people who download content aren't generally organised, there is no organised opposition to this one sided argument and no one professionally supporting them.

      Everyone knows its wrong, but it's also wrong to strangle the copyright laws in such a way as to prevent a lot of artists from making a living or being able to do what they'd love to do.

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      Re: 10 Years in Jail For Internet Pirates Now Reality in the UK

      That means that if lend my 20 year old BOUGHT DVD of a film to my son to watch, I could end up in jail for a year.

      Nice to see that the powers that be are concentrating on real crime for a change!!

      There is little incentive NOT to rip things.

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      Re: 10 Years in Jail For Internet Pirates Now Reality in the UK

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Since people who download content aren't generally organised, there is no organised opposition to this one sided argument and no one professionally supporting them.
      But they are infringing copyright are they not?

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      Everyone knows its wrong, but it's also wrong to strangle the copyright laws in such a way as to prevent a lot of artists from making a living or being able to do what they'd love to do.
      How does it affect the artists themselves, this is trying to protect them. It's aimed at those who illegally copy or who stream copyrighted material. if there were no laws in place to protect the artists, studios and media companies then there would be little incentive for anyone to write or record or produce anything, a bit like BMW making cars and people just help themselves without paying for it. In Sky's case there would be no point in them existing either as they would not make any profits to feed back into whatever they are promoting, sport etc.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BurnIT View Post
      That means that if lend my 20 year old BOUGHT DVD of a film to my son to watch, I could end up in jail for a year.

      Nice to see that the powers that be are concentrating on real crime for a change!!

      There is little incentive NOT to rip things.
      That's why they are increasing the penalties... THAT's the incentive!

      Someone will be popping in to see you regarding the DVD quite soon.
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      Re: 10 Years in Jail For Internet Pirates Now Reality in the UK

      Quote Originally Posted by marjohn56 View Post
      How does it affect the artists themselves, this is trying to protect them. It's aimed at those who illegally copy or who stream copyrighted material...
      The big companies are pushing the current music content. That's why music sales are down.

      All the artists that they push look good in front of the camera. For a comparison take a look at the music artists from the 60s & 70s.

      The big companies have killed off the music industry. They same is happening in the film industry.

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