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    ‘Pirate’ Kodi Box Seller Enters “Not Guilty” Plea in Landmark Trial

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      ‘Pirate’ Kodi Box Seller Enters “Not Guilty” Plea in Landmark Trial

      https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-kodi...andmark-trial/
      The man at the center of a landmark case involving the supply of "fully-loaded" Kodi boxes pleaded not guilty this morning. Middlesbrough shopkeeper Brian Thompson admits selling modified set-top boxes but denies that they were primarily designed to "facilitate the circumvention of effective technological measures."

      With the advent of cheap Android devices such as Amazon’s Fire Stick and dozens of set-top variants, anyone can install legal software such as Kodi to watch recorded media. However, those very same devices can be modified to do things that at best sit in a legal gray area and at worst could be illegal. We’re talking about viewing movies, TV shows, live TV and PPV events, without paying a dime to anyone.

      In some parts of the world the phenomenon has reached epidemic proportions, so much so that the Federation Against Copyright Theft now cite it as a major concern in the UK. But while there is not much anyone can do to clamp down on people at home doing a DIY job on their own setups, it is possible to crack down on people who supply pre-modified devices.

      One individual that has found himself in the middle of the controversy is UK-based Brian ‘Tomo’ Thompson. The Middlesborough-based shopkeeper was previously raided by police and Trading Standards after selling “fully loaded” Android boxes from his small premises.

      Unusually for such cases, Thompson is being prosecuted by his local council. He’s under the impression that he’s done nothing wrong but now wants to discover where the boundaries lie for sellers of similar devices.

      “All I want to know is whether I am doing anything illegal. I know it’s a gray area but I want it in black and white,” he said last September.

      This morning Thompson appeared before Teeside Crown Court for a plea hearing. As promised, BBC reports that he pleaded not guilty, which means his case will now go to a full trial.

      In what will be a landmark case, Thompson stands accused of two offenses under section 296ZB of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act. This section deals with devices and services designed to circumvent technological measures.

      “A person commits an offense if he — in the course of a business — sells or lets for hire, any device, product or component which is primarily designed, produced, or adapted for the purpose of enabling or facilitating the circumvention of effective technological measures,” the law reads.

      Kodi installations with third-party addons effectively ‘farm’ content already available on various ‘pirate’ sites on the Internet. On that basis, it could be argued that any anti-circumvention/anti-copying measures put in place by broadcasters and other copyright holders have already been bypassed by the time the addon streams the content to the user.

      However, the Court will have to decide what part, if any, Thompson played in circumventing those measures when he sold modified Kodi devices to his customers. According to the BBC, two of those sales were test purchases made by Middlesborough Council.

      The outcome of the trial, which is likely to be complex one, will have little effect on people who modify their own Kodi installations at home. However, it is likely to determine the boundaries when it comes to those offering “fully loaded” Kodi TV devices for sale in the UK.


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      Re: ‘Pirate’ Kodi Box Seller Enters “Not Guilty” Plea in Landmark Trial

      He will be cleared.

      Movies through kodi are terrible quality anyway


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      Re: ‘Pirate’ Kodi Box Seller Enters “Not Guilty” Plea in Landmark Trial

      The big companies are going after the Kodi pirates at the moment in a big way. Whether this individual gets cleared or not won't stop them.

      Whilst I appreciate that not everyone has the money to subscribe to Sky's TV products, streaming the content via Kodi and not paying isn't very nice when there are around 11 million people in the UK who do pay directly to Sky.

      There are also the around 5 million VM subscribers who also get Sky's channel line up. They too are paying for the channels.

      Ok I appreciate that downloading films via the many torrent sites can be likened to this, along with various TV series too. It is also now possible to stream such content via some of the torrent products too.

      I disagree with the huge prices we have to pay time and time again in order to watch much of the content we have. I also disagree with those who don't pay the subscription fees to the likes of Sky, BT, TalkTalk, VM, Netflix and Amazon, but want the content delivered for free via such platforms as Kodi.

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      Re: ‘Pirate’ Kodi Box Seller Enters “Not Guilty” Plea in Landmark Trial

      Know little about Kodi except often read about its illegal use.
      Did it not takeover from the old XBMC tv card and media player. Assume there are some who use it legally.

      Can they not just get the Kodi software team to remove the ability for this to add the streams or are they involved in this piracy?
      Also, it mentions Amazon selling the boxes, makes you wonder if Amazon are aware that these boxes are being used like this.

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      Re: ‘Pirate’ Kodi Box Seller Enters “Not Guilty” Plea in Landmark Trial

      Quote Originally Posted by lettice View Post
      Know little about Kodi except often read about its illegal use.
      Did it not takeover from the old XBMC tv card and media player. Assume there are some who use it legally.

      Can they not just get the Kodi software team to remove the ability for this to add the streams or are they involved in this piracy?
      Also, it mentions Amazon selling the boxes, makes you wonder if Amazon are aware that these boxes are being used like this.
      Kodi is just a media player, just like itunes etc. It's open source so allows people to build add-ons that you can install. It's the addons that are the problem. Some are legit, there is a you tube add on as an example but most are designed to easilly be able to access streams of copyrighted content. It's just a more convenient way than hunting the web for dodgy streams.

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      Re: ‘Pirate’ Kodi Box Seller Enters “Not Guilty” Plea in Landmark Trial

      Blaming KODI is daft, you then have to blame Windows and Android etc, streaming is possible from everything that can resolve a web address and has the right codec. IIRC I believe there is even a bike and a fridge this applies to.

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      Re: ‘Pirate’ Kodi Box Seller Enters “Not Guilty” Plea in Landmark Trial

      Quote Originally Posted by coipu View Post
      IIRC I believe there is even a bike and a fridge this applies to.
      Now that would make a good fake news headline:
      "Biker arrested streaming down the M1"

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      Re: ‘Pirate’ Kodi Box Seller Enters “Not Guilty” Plea in Landmark Trial

      Unfortunately it appears to be easier to go after the people who have been supplying the Kodi boxes pre-loaded with the open source software which allows people to stream the content from Sky, BT, etc. Going after each individual Kodi owner would apparently be too costly.

      So I guess this is similar to going after Vines of Guildford for supplying a BMW F800 R Sport Motorcycle that can do "over 200km/h" (another souce lists the maximum seed at 218km/p or 135.5mph). Of course this is above the legal limit on all of the UK's public roads, so obviously (sarcasm alert!) all motorcyclists who own this model must be speeding.

      Since many speed cameras are pointed towards the driver (useful for cars), such cameras are useless when it comes to motorcycles. So I guess they have to prosecute someone.

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      Re: ‘Pirate’ Kodi Box Seller Enters “Not Guilty” Plea in Landmark Trial

      It is like CB radios where prior to 1981 it was illegal to use them in the UK though they could be imported and sold quite openly as the crime was use, not possession.

     

     

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