Your forum username:
Do you already have an account?
Forgot your password?
  • Log in or Sign up


    Welcome to Sky User - The Unofficial Support Forum for everything Sky! - Proudly helping over 65k members.


    Advertisement

    Results 1 to 6 of 6
    Like Tree2Likes
    • 2 Post By seawright

    UK’s Legalization of CD Ripping is Unlawful, Court Rules

    This is a discussion on UK’s Legalization of CD Ripping is Unlawful, Court Rules within the P2P / File sharing forums, part of the General chat category; UK's Legalization of CD Ripping is Unlawful, Court Rules | TorrentFreak Several music industry organizations in the UK have won ...

    1. #1
      Scubbie's Avatar
      Scubbie is offline Sky User Moderator
      Exchange: 02392
      Broadband ISP: Sky Fibre Unlimited
      Router: Sky Q Hub ER110
      Sky TV: Sky+HD box
      Join Date
      Mar 2010
      Location
      Near Portsmouth
      Posts
      28,200
      Thanks
      842
      Thanked 2,223 Times in 2,092 Posts

      UK’s Legalization of CD Ripping is Unlawful, Court Rules

      UK's Legalization of CD Ripping is Unlawful, Court Rules | TorrentFreak
      Several music industry organizations in the UK have won a judicial review which renders the Government's decision to allow copying for personal use unlawful. According to the High Court, there's insufficient evidence to prove that the legislation doesn't hurt musicians and the industry at large.

      Late last year the UK Government legalized copying for private use, a practice which many citizens already believed to be legal. However, until last October, anyone who transferred music from a purchased CD to an MP3 player was committing an offense.

      The change was “in the best interest” of consumers, the Government reasoned, but several music industry organizations disagreed.

      In November the Musicians’ Union (MU), the British Academy of Songwriters, Composers and Authors (BASCA) and UK Music applied for a judicial review of the new legislation.

      While the groups are not against private copying exceptions, they disagreed with the Government’s conclusion that the change would cause no financial harm to the music industry.

      Instead of keeping copies free, they suggested that a tax should be applied to blank media including blank CDs, hard drives, memory sticks and other blank media. This money would then be shared among rightsholders, a mechanism already operating in other European countries.

      Today the High Court largely agreed with the music industry groups. The Government’s conclusion that copyright holders will not suffer any significant harm was based on inadequate evidence, Mr Justice Green ruled.

      “In conclusion, the decision to introduce section 28B [private copying] in the absence of a compensation mechanism is unlawful,” the Judge writes.

      The Judge didn’t agree with all claims from the music groups. For example, he rejected the allegation that the Government had unlawfully predetermined the outcome of the private copying consultation.

      Nonetheless, the application for a judicial review succeeded meaning that the private copying exceptions are now deemed unlawful. As a result, the Government will likely have to amend the legislation, which took roughly half a decade to implement.

      The UK music groups are happy with the outcome and are eager to discuss possible changes with lawmakers.

      “The High Court agreed with us that Government acted unlawfully. It is vitally important that fairness for songwriters, composers and performers is written into the law,” UK Music CEO Jo Dipple commented on the ruling.

      “Changes to copyright law that affect such a vital part of the creative economy, which supports one in twelve jobs, must only be introduced if there is a robust evidential basis for doing so,” Dipple added.

      The High Court scheduled a new hearing next month to decide what action should be taken in response to the judgment, including whether the private copying exceptions should be scrapped from law.


    2. Advertisement
    3. #2
      lettice's Avatar
      lettice is offline Sky User Member
      Exchange: 0.4 mile away and cabinet 350 yards
      Broadband ISP: Sky Broadband Superfast + Boost
      Router: Sky Broadband Hub SR203
      Sky TV: SkyQ2tbV2+mini
      Join Date
      Jun 2011
      Location
      England
      Posts
      2,036
      Thanks
      12
      Thanked 191 Times in 182 Posts

      Re: UK’s Legalization of CD Ripping is Unlawful, Court Rules

      Honestly have they not got something better to do.
      Do people buy cds anymore.
      Modern music is not for me, but I've bought plenty of google play and itunes music recently for my dinosaur rock bands.
      If the music indusrty is not happy with the way of the world, now spotify, pandora youtube have moved it on, they should have got in on the act years ago themselves.
      Luckily I have no cds to rip anymore, all sold to music magpie years ago.
      All my old music content is loaded on apple and google cloud now and they own the content

    4. #3
      gymno's Avatar
      gymno Guest
      Exchange:
      Broadband ISP:
      Router:
      Sky TV:

      Re: UK’s Legalization of CD Ripping is Unlawful, Court Rules

      Instead of keeping copies free, they suggested that a tax should be applied to blank media including blank CDs, hard drives, memory sticks and other blank media. This money would then be shared among rightsholders, a mechanism already operating in other European countries.
      Really?

      So if i store MY photos that I'VE taken on MY camera on a memory stick that I'VE purchased, these 'rights holders' want some of the cost of that memory stick to go to them?

    5. #4
      Scubbie's Avatar
      Scubbie is offline Sky User Moderator
      Exchange: 02392
      Broadband ISP: Sky Fibre Unlimited
      Router: Sky Q Hub ER110
      Sky TV: Sky+HD box
      Join Date
      Mar 2010
      Location
      Near Portsmouth
      Posts
      28,200
      Thanks
      842
      Thanked 2,223 Times in 2,092 Posts

      Re: UK’s Legalization of CD Ripping is Unlawful, Court Rules

      I have always considered their stance a glorified joke.

      As I've previously mentioned on these forums, I bought a Sony Discman back in 2001. It came with the software that allowed you to not only rip the tracks from your own CDs, but also the tools to encrypt the tracks so that you could pack considerably more onto your own CDs, that it burned.

      Yes I did purchase the Discman in a Sony shop in Portsmouth, UK too.

      So as far as I am concerned the very people behind this complaint are the very same people who supplied me with the tools to complete the task in the first place.

      Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro: Connected at 80,000 kbps / 20,000 kbps
      Previous ADSL2+ Speed 19999 kbps 1153 kbps, Line Attenuation 17.5 db 6.9 db, Noise Margin 7.5 dB 8.7 dB
      Speedtest: 17.15MB/s 0.97Mb/s Ping 31 ms

    6. #5
      seawright's Avatar
      seawright is offline Sky User Member
      Exchange: 02392
      Broadband ISP: Other ISP
      Router: Non Sky Router
      Sky TV: Sky+HD box
      Join Date
      Jul 2012
      Posts
      3,509
      Thanks
      65
      Thanked 388 Times in 378 Posts

      Re: UK’s Legalization of CD Ripping is Unlawful, Court Rules

      If a tax is to be applied to blank media why not apply standard rate VAT to children’s clothes at the same time under the pretext that such clothing could be worn by small adults.
      Scubbie and gymno like this.

    7. #6
      gymno's Avatar
      gymno Guest
      Exchange:
      Broadband ISP:
      Router:
      Sky TV:

      Re: UK’s Legalization of CD Ripping is Unlawful, Court Rules

      Or give nestle & kellog's 1p for every cereal bowl sold.

      You know, just in case your mum didn't like that 'new recipe' & gave you the box to try.

     

     

    Tags for this Thread

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •  
    SkyUser - Copyright © 2006-2020. SatDish and NewsreadeR | SkyUser is in no way affiliated with Sky Broadband / BSkyB
    RIPA NOTICE: NO CONSENT IS GIVEN FOR INTERCEPTION OF PAGE TRANSMISSION