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      Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

      Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions - BBC News
      Windows 10 is going to be the last major revision of the operating system.

      Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft development executive, said in a conference speech this week that Windows 10 would be the "last version" of the dominant desktop software.

      His comments were echoed by Microsoft which said it would update Windows in future in an "ongoing manner".

      Instead of new stand-alone versions, Windows 10 would be improved in regular instalments, the firm said.

      Mr Nixon made his comments during Microsoft's Ignite conference held in Chicago this week.

      In a statement, Microsoft said Mr Nixon's comments reflected a change in the way that it made its software.

      "Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner," it said, adding that it expected there to be a "long future" for Windows.

      'No Windows 11'


      The company said it had yet to decide on what to call the operating system beyond Windows 10.

      "There will be no Windows 11," warned Steve Kleynhans, a research vice-president at analyst firm Gartner who monitors Microsoft.

      He said Microsoft had in the past deliberately avoided using the name "Windows 9" and instead chose Windows 10 as a way to signify a break with a past which involved successive stand-alone versions of the operating system.

      However, he said, working in that way had created many problems for Microsoft and its customers.

      "Every three years or so Microsoft would sit down and create 'the next great OS'," he said.

      "The developers would be locked away and out would pop a product based on what the world wanted three years ago."

      Microsoft also had to spend a huge amount of money and marketing muscle to convince people that they needed this new version, and that it was better than anything that had come before, he explained.

      Moving to a situation in which Windows is a constantly updated service will break out of this cycle, and let Microsoft tinker more with the software to test new features and see how customers like them, he added.

      'Positive step'


      Most of the revenue generated by Windows for Microsoft came from sales of new PCs and this was unlikely to be affected by the change, Mr Kleynhans pointed out.

      "Overall this is a positive step, but it does have some risks," he said.

      "Microsoft will have to work hard to keep generating updates and new features, he said, adding that questions still remained about how corporate customers would adapt to the change and how Microsoft would provide support.

      "It doesn't mean that Windows is frozen and will never move forward again," Mr Kleynhans told the BBC.

      "Indeed we are about to see the opposite, with the speed of Windows updates shifting into high gear."


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      Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

      "Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner," it said, adding that it expected there to be a "long future" for Windows.
      This is what is worrying many. Will Windows be sold as an annual licence which will require payment every year to renew it? It is hard to see how they can make money if it is not done this way.

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      Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

      How do apple manage it?

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      Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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      How do apple manage it?
      I think mainly because they make their money from selling Apple equipment at a premium price. With the exception of the Surface and the Xbox, MS don't make devices. They have always been primarily a software seller.

      I think they are taking the OS in the same direction a MS Office 365. ie, pay annually or it stops working.

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      Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

      Hmmm, if they bring in an annual licence, pirated versions will be used more than they currently are.

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      Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

      I know that annual licenses for operating systems were/are the way for larger mainframes, but this would be a major change in the method that M$ operate and would stop people from upgrading to Win 10.

      As M$ has such a large strangle hold on desktop and laptop computers, it wouldn't be in their interests to introduce this option. They are already #1. I am sure that the EU Commission would get upset and challenge it.

      They've already stated the Win 10 will be offered as a free upgrade for anyone with Win 7 & 8.1, which don't have an annual renewal fee. This wouldn't be a 'free' upgrade in the truest sense, just the legal sense.

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      Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

      An annual licence would definitely be a retro(-grade) step. I remember pre-windows we used a Dos programme called Lex for word processing which failed to work after the Christmas break because someone had failed to renew the licence.

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      Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

      One of the big problems with Windows and Office over the years has been that each new version has been treated as an entirely separate product, rather than an update to the old product. Office 365 ends that, and it looks like the same will be happening to Windows too. Excellent news. But of course paying is not so good if you expect all software to be free.
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      Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

      Certainly I can appreciate that we would all like software that is continuously maintained. This requires someone to be paid for their work.

      For many the cost of a new computer and a suitable collection of office products is an expensive one off cost.

      Being asked to pay an annual fee for the software can help legitimise your computer, but it can also make things harder when times are hard.

      Ok Office 365 costs between 5.99 and 79.99 to renew at the moment. The 5.99 price allows you to use the one license on 2 items (1 PC or Mac & 1 tablet), the whole of the Office suite and 60 minutes of calls on Skype. Of course this is the renewal cost and doesn't include the initial outlay of around 50-120.

      Unfortunately M$ have a habit of introducing new features that force older computers to become redundant. Would this mean that in a couple of years that new computer you've just bought will no longer be able to benefit from all the features in Office 365 that you are paying for?

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      Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

      Office is optional - unless needed for business purposes, in which case price should be less of an issue. The free Open Office (or similar) should be perfectly sufficient otherwise. By the way, 80 p.a. for 5 PCs is the M$ standard price. Last year I did not renew my Office 365 subscription, but bought a new one for 60 from Novatech, i.e. you do not have to purchase directly from M$ and you can find a discount if you search.

      Windows is another matter, and the point re. h/w obsolescence is well made. However, now that a 64-bit o/s has become the norm, I think the chance of a major change to the Windows driver model that would leave old h/w stranded, such as happened with Windows Vista, seems small over the lifetime of an individual PC in the near future.
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