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    This is a discussion on HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08) within the General chat forums, part of the Community channel category; Weather permitting our Navy's newest ship and the largest aircraft carrier she's had to date will arrive in Portsmouth next ...

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      HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Weather permitting our Navy's newest ship and the largest aircraft carrier she's had to date will arrive in Portsmouth next Friday. Her sister ship, HMS Prince of Wales (R09) will be officially named on September 8th in Rosyth.

      The expected time will be for her to enter the harbour at around 9.37am. Weather permitting. The actual window is from Thursday 17th until Tuesday 22nd.

      They are expecting around 250,000 people in Portsmouth, Southsea and Gosport to witness the arrival. Obviously not everyone will be able to get the who may have an interest in watching her.

      There is a webcam based in Ryde. The person who runs it intends to track HMS Queen Elizabeth as she arrives in port.

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      Currently she is in Invergordon, Scotland. She's been there a few days following various sea trials. Earlier this week she met up with USS George H W Bush and the various escorts. This is the second time she's visited Invergordon. She was there for two weeks just last month.



      On her travels she has visited Scapa flow. This was to mark the 100th Anniversary since the first carrier takeoff and landing.




      In formation with the USS George HW Bush carrier group who are currently on exercise "Saxon Warrior":



      Some pictures and facts:
      HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)-carrier-size-comparison-01.jpgHMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)-carrier-size-comparison-02.jpgHMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)-hms-queen-elizabeth-bow.jpg

      Whilst this next comparison image shows many of the current carriers, the image representing HMS Queen Elizabeth is wrong. During the design two possible decks were considered. This image shows the angled deck. Instead the Royal Navy have gone for the one shown in the photos and images above:

      HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)-carrier-size-comparison-03.jpg

      Officially name: 4th July 2014, she was floated out of the dock 6 days later
      First went to sea: 26th June 2017
      Commissioned: expected soon
      Length: 280m
      Beam: 39m (waterline), 73m (overall)
      Draught: 11m
      Maximum speed: 25 knots (she has been seen doing 27.4 knots via AIS during her trials)

      By comparison, the USA have recently commissioned their latest carrier, the first of a new class, USS Gerald R Ford (CVN 78).

      Officially named: 16th January 2007
      Launched: 13th October 2013
      First time at sea under own power: 8th April 2017
      Commissioned: 22nd July 2017
      Length: 337m
      Beam: 41m (waterline), 78m (overall)
      Draught: 8m
      Maximum speed: 30 knots
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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Was up in Scapa last week and she was doing sea trials then. Went right past us. Having a bit of difficulty uploading the pics for some reason

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Its a pity its decks are conspicuously short of aircraft

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Quote Originally Posted by Ridcully View Post
      Was up in Scapa last week and she was doing sea trials then. Went right past us. Having a bit of difficulty uploading the pics for some reason
      The forum software works best with jpg images. If they are very large there might be an issue, but generally it's fine. Use the 'Insert Image' button on top of the editing section.

      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      Its a pity its decks are conspicuously short of aircraft
      hehehe... yes just a little.

      She is undergoing sea trials at the moment and there are a lot of things to complete before she is handed over to the Navy. There are various other systems to be fitted once she arrives in Portsmouth, such as close-protection weapons.

      Hopefully next year the UK will have 10 of it's own F35Bs. She'll then be in a position to take some USMC F35Bs and sail with 24 all together.

      I guess the next stop after she's cruised the Sea of China will be to help bolster forces attacking North Korea.

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      She's back at sea now, having cast off about 9pm this evening.

      No doubt there will be a few more sea trials over the next few days, before she heads south and through the Straits of Dover and on to Portsmouth.

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Made me laugh on the TV news yesterday that someone managed to fly a drone onto it without anyone noticing, whilst out at sea near Scotland.

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Quote Originally Posted by lettice View Post
      Made me laugh on the TV news yesterday that someone managed to fly a drone onto it without anyone noticing, whilst out at sea near Scotland.
      There have been quite a few discussions elsewhere about that incident. Basically Invergordon isn't a military port, from what I can tell. It is used to service the Oil Rigs and various cruise ships also visit it on a regular basis. As HMS Queen Elizabeth hasn't yet been fitted with any of her weapons for close attack, she isn't able to protect herself at this time. Instead she has an escort or two in the form of other ships or sub.

      The Cunard's Queen Elizabeth sailed around HMS Queen Elizabeth as she left Invergorden, whilst HMS Queen Elizabeth was at anchor last month.



      If you look closely you can see perhaps 95% of the QE's passengers taking a good look and some photos of HMS Queen Elizabeth.

      As for dealing with drones, there are a host of methods available. Some probably unsuitable for use whilst she's in port, others simple and effective. The video below shows a few ideas, but the Royal Navy and other armed services probably already have something.



      In the mean time our Prison Services are apparently incapable of stopping drones that are bringing phones and drugs into the prisons.

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      That is a bit OTT.
      Not sure what kind of drone that guy used, but there are plenty on Amazon that are cheap and can travel a good distance with homing.
      Do know many in the meteorological forums I follow use them now to take pics of the weather and follow the track of storms and rain. The pics they get is pretty impressive.

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Jamming may be less contentious. Either the control signal or in the case of auto homing, GPS.

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      Re: HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08)

      Quote Originally Posted by seawright View Post
      Jamming may be less contentious. Either the control signal or in the case of auto homing, GPS.
      Yes jamming the signal might be better in some respects, but what about the payload? Will the craft automatically land? That feature could be disabled.

      Quote Originally Posted by lettice View Post
      That is a bit OTT.
      Not sure what kind of drone that guy used, but there are plenty on Amazon that are cheap and can travel a good distance with homing.
      Do know many in the meteorological forums I follow use them now to take pics of the weather and follow the track of storms and rain. The pics they get is pretty impressive.
      Depends on what the potential damage is from a drone.

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      Whilst that was a boat filled with explosives, if a drone can be used to supply a kilo of drugs to a prison, I'm sure it's technically possible to deliver a 1 kilo package of something else to a ship in port. That package could just be flour.

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