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Old 20-08-08, 05:22 PM   #1
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Free sat in more than one room

I want to get freesat as aerial reception is crap. I have a normal aerial in the roof with a splitter to provide a feed to 3 rooms. can I send the feed from the dish to the splitter in the roof, via the existing system and then back to the other two rooms without the need for massive re-wiring? Any help / advice helpful. I can t get any sense out of anyone on the sky helpdesk.

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Re: Free sat in more than one room

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Re: Free sat in more than one room

Unfortunately the satellite dish is actually 4 different aerials. Only one can be in use at any time, and its selected using a combination of voltages and an audio tone. You cannot split a satellite feed correctly as only one of the destinations can be selecting the required aerial feed from the dish.
If you want to feed three Freesat boxes, then you need an LNB with three or more outputs.

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Re: Free sat in more than one room

You will never get a great reception with an aerial in the loft, especially if it is also split.

You need to get a decent digi aerial on the roof with a 4 way masthead amp and then a feed to each TV.

Then you should have no problems

Depending on the signal strengh, you may be able to put the amp in the loft and use the existing cables but I would recommend new runs to each TV as the old coax will not be digi spec.

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Re: Free sat in more than one room

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You will never get a great reception with an aerial in the loft, especially if it is also split.

You need to get a decent digi aerial on the roof with a 4 way masthead amp and then a feed to each TV.

Then you should have no problems

Depending on the signal strengh, you may be able to put the amp in the loft and use the existing cables but I would recommend new runs to each TV as the old coax will not be digi spec.
He wants Freesat.
The cable should still be fine, theres no such thing as digital spec, the qpsk(Satellite)/COFDM(DTT) signals are still analogue.

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Re: Free sat in more than one room

Tell that to the CAI

See the list below:-

http://www.cai.org.uk/downloads/CAI%...g%20Scheme.pdf

http://www.cai.org.uk/downloads/CAI%...BENCHMARK1.pdf

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Re: Free sat in more than one room

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Yep, cable specs. But no mention of digital or analogue. Like I said Digital TV still uses analogue signals. If it works for analogue it will work for digital with the same frequency range.
Theres also no such thing as a Digital Aerial - they are simply wideband analogue antennas suitable for receiving the DTT frequencies.

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Re: Free sat in more than one room

Sorry, didn't include the details of the scheme:-

Cable Benchmarking Scheme

The basis of the scheme is to lay down minimum standards for the technical performance of TV coaxial cable based on the specific requirements for satisfactory DTT reception. It is not intended to address general quality issues, such as standard of construction, durability etc., which can largely be assessed by visual inspection and from practical experience. This benchmarking scheme covers coaxial cables only. It does not cover the complete aerial installation, or installation practice.

Conformance to the minimum standards is determined by independent measurements against a technical performance specification. This has been compiled by an industry wide committee who will monitor the implementation of the scheme and agree any necessary changes to the detailed procedures, test methods, and specifications.

The scheme allows the measurements to be carried out by any test house that is able to demonstrate that it meets the required standards of measurement accuracy. The use of the 'mark' will be authorised for specific products by the CAI, once the 'pass' certificate and supporting documentation has been issued by the test house. Testing of random samples sold to installers or retailers will ensure ongoing conformance.

The Cable Benchmarking Scheme is a purely voluntary arrangement within the industry and the DTG/CAI have no intention of seeking any form of mandatory status at this time. It is however expected to be widely adopted and reference may be made to specific types of CAI/DTG benchmarked cable in manufacturers literature, purchasers' requirement specifications or supply contracts.

Benchmarked aerials should always be used in conjunction with good installation practice as laid down by the CAI Code of Practice and the recommendations in DTG R Book 2.


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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the existing cable won't work but if your going to all the expense of fitting a new aerial and amp then I feel it wise to run in new cable.

Just about every house I have installed an aerial in where the coax has been ran into the loft has had a poor quality coax, usually the cheapest the electrician can get.

As digital is more likely to suffer electrical interference than standard analog I would expect any coax used should be double screened for peace of mind.

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