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    This is a discussion on The day I hit a child at 20mph - and realised the speed limit must be cut within the Everyday Life forums, part of the Community channel category; Anyone driving fast down the road you show in the picture is driving carelessly, whatever the speed limit. Are you ...

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      Re: The day I hit a child at 20mph - and realised the speed limit must be cut

      Anyone driving fast down the road you show in the picture is driving carelessly, whatever the speed limit.

      Are you proposing a speed camera on every 20 mph limit road?


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      Re: The day I hit a child at 20mph - and realised the speed limit must be cut

      Quote Originally Posted by FelixTCat View Post
      Anyone driving fast down the road you show in the picture is driving carelessly, whatever the speed limit.
      Agreed, but people do drive at those speeds and faster.

      Quote Originally Posted by FelixTCat View Post
      Are you proposing a speed camera on every 20 mph limit road?
      No. IMHO it's unworkable and would only catch those who don't live in the area. Since the majority of the traffic would be people who live locally they would learn to slow down for the camera and then speed up again.

      Of course a camera needs a suitable amount of space to be able to see the oncoming vehicle too. In the road I've shown a picture of above there would be very few suitable places to locate it.

      Of course that flash would be a RPITA too for the local residents.

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      Re: The day I hit a child at 20mph - and realised the speed limit must be cut

      Playing Devils Advocate.....

      Where does it end, 10 MPH limit ? Ban cars in a built up area during daylight hours ?

      There is a risk in living, danger cannot be eliminated entirely. Responsibility must be with the carers of the very young or the children themselves when they are judged to be mature enough to be on their own.
      I accept a 10-20 MPH limit around schools is a good idea, but replacing all 30 MPH with 20 MPH limits would be nuts.

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      Re: The day I hit a child at 20mph - and realised the speed limit must be cut

      I'm all for 20mph in residential areas.
      I'm also aware that there are residential areas on main roads that cant be restricted to 20 mph.
      How do we deal with that ?


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      Re: The day I hit a child at 20mph - and realised the speed limit must be cut

      Quote Originally Posted by 146Kg View Post
      Where does it end, 10 MPH limit ? Ban cars in a built up area during daylight hours ?
      Currently most car parks have a speed limit of 10mph. Some have a limit of 5mph. Next time you're shopping take a look around and see just how many cars appear to be moving too quickly for the speed limit for that car park. Also consider just how many children will be running around all excited.

      Children tend to run a lot. They can easily dart from behind a parked car. Sure most of the time a suitable adult will grab them. Unfortunately this doesn't happen all the time.

      Now ask yourself "Could that car really stop in time if they happened to be close to a child?"

      Quote Originally Posted by dholdi View Post
      I'm all for 20mph in residential areas.
      It's not going to be popular.

      Quote Originally Posted by dholdi View Post
      I'm also aware that there are residential areas on main roads that cant be restricted to 20 mph.
      How do we deal with that ?
      When I first saw the article I felt it would be nice to share to get people talking. As much as it's nice to be able to fix the world, I don't have all the answers. Let's face it, most of those homes which are close to major roads will already have had some measures put in place to protect them from vehicles. Of course this isn't the answer in all cases.


      New Express Delivery Service from Royal Mail

      Just for clarity, that lorry came off a roundabout, went over to the wrong side of the road and went through a small wall..



      Thankfully no one was injured. It happened before 6am and the residents were in bed, above where the lorry hit.

      The main road has a speed limit of 40mph.



      Portslade crash: Boy arrested after car hits house - BBC News
      A boy has been arrested after a car with three people inside hit a Brighton house following a police pursuit.

      Two males in the car ran away from the scene of the crash in Valley Road, Portslade on Tuesday.

      A 17-year-old was later arrested on suspicion of stealing a car, failing to stop and resisting arrest...
      I doubt very much if the driver in this incident gave a hoot about the sign that is clearly visible in this picture.

      Had there been anyone in the road, they would have been in the morgue soon after.

      Speed limits are just that, the limit. They aren't a target.

      They are supposed to indicate the fastest speed that can be driven on a road when the best conditions are in place. When its wet, icy or windy then the speed should be reduced.

      'Safest' does not mean 8am to 8pm, it means 24/7.

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      Re: The day I hit a child at 20mph - and realised the speed limit must be cut

      Those Royal Mail vans / lorries do drive very much faster than the speed limit.
      I see them frequently when on my way home after a night shift.
      Same for couriers who are on very tight deadlines which encourages them to speed.

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      Re: The day I hit a child at 20mph - and realised the speed limit must be cut

      I'm not sure about the specific details of how fast the lorry was going at the time. I just wanted to illustrate that despite some form of a barrier being in place, this might not be enough for a home, let alone a child.

      The driver was on his way to the delivery office in Gosport at the time. He'd just come off a double roundabout on the main road in/out of Gosport.

      There would have been few other vehicles around.

      All those lorries have tachographs fitted, so if he was speeding, the authorities would have picked up the evidence.

      The contents of the lorry would have been he day's 1st & 2nd class mail. Some would have been pre-sorted, other items would have needed to be sorted for each round. There would have also been some special delivery items too.

      There would have been a little pressure to arrive on time, but pointless getting to the delivery office too early as no one would have been in a position to sort it all.

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      Re: The day I hit a child at 20mph - and realised the speed limit must be cut

      If anyone would like to test their reaction speed, try this:

      https://www.justpark.com/creative/reaction-time-test/

      Note that it doesn't work with a mouse click; you must use the keyboard.
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      Re: The day I hit a child at 20mph - and realised the speed limit must be cut

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      It's not going to be popular.
      We have had 20mph limits in residential areas for at least 18 months here.
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      Re: The day I hit a child at 20mph - and realised the speed limit must be cut

      Quote Originally Posted by FelixTCat View Post
      If anyone would like to test their reaction speed, try this:

      https://www.justpark.com/creative/reaction-time-test/

      Note that it doesn't work with a mouse click; you must use the keyboard.
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