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      TV licence dodgers beware: BBC says PASSWORDS will be needed to access iPlayer content...

      TV licence dodgers beware: BBC says PASSWORDS will be needed to access iPlayer content within weeks

      BBC says passwords will be needed for iPlayer within weeks | Daily Mail Online

      • The introduction of a login was revealed last September
      • BBC says it will help make services 'more personal and relevant to you'
      • But data provided to create an account can also help find fee evaders
      • It will help tailor programme suggestions to users based on previous choices


      Users of the iPlayer will need to enter a password to access the online catch-up service within the next few weeks, the BBC has announced.

      The Corporation denied the move was part of a crackdown on licence fee evaders.

      But it said email addresses registered to an account may allow them to identify people using the service without paying.

      From Thursday, viewers of the catch-up service will be notified with a message saying they 'will soon need to sign in to watch' and encouraged to do so before the deadline in a few weeks.

      The BBC is introducing passwords for its on-demand iPlayer (pictured) within weeks, and viewers of the catch-up service will be notified with a message saying they 'will soon need to sign in to watch' from Thursday.

      IPLAYER LOGIN

      Viewers of the catch-up service will be notified with a message saying they 'will soon need to sign in to watch' from Thursday, and encouraged to do so before the deadline in a few weeks.

      It comes after new rules were introduced last year which meant that viewers must have a TV licence to watch or download BBC programmes on demand through the iPlayer.

      The BBC insists the move isn't about enforcing the licence fee.

      And the corporation will not be using mass surveillance techniques or ask internet providers for IP addresses to identify evaders.

      But anyone accessing TV and radio content via the streaming service will have to register their names, email addresses, and postcodes.
      The introduction of a login, which was revealed last September, is part of the BBC's plans to make services 'more personal and relevant to you', said MyBBC launch director Andrew Scott in an online blog.

      This includes tailoring programme suggestions to users based on previous choices and will allow people to start watching a programme on one device before picking up where they left off on their TV.

      It comes after new rules were introduced last year which meant that viewers must have a TV licence to watch or download BBC programmes on demand through the iPlayer.

      Mr Scott said the reason for making the changes 'isn't about enforcing the licence fee - it's about giving you a better BBC and helping you get the best out of it'.

      He added the BBC would not be using 'mass surveillance techniques or ask internet providers for IP addresses' to identify evaders.

      However, information provided 'can help TV Licensing ensure that people are abiding by the law'.

      He said: 'By matching email addresses we may be able to identify someone who has told us they don't need a TV licence while at the same time having signed in and watched iPlayer.

      'So we will now use this alongside our existing enforcement techniques to help identify people who are watching licence fee-funded content without a licence.'

      Mr Scott said the BBC was 'continuing to look' at whether a verification system was required for the iPlayer so non-licence fee payers can access content for free.

      Currently, the BBC loses around £150million every year from people using its content without paying the £145.50 licence fee.

      At the beginning of September 2016 it became illegal to use iPlayer without a licence.

      Currently, the BBC loses around £150million every year from people using its content without paying the £145.50 licence fee. Anyone accessing TV and radio content via the streaming service will have to register their names, email addresses, and postcodes (stock image)

      CHANGES TO THE LAW

      At the beginning of September 2016 it became illegal to use iPlayer without a licence.

      The TV Licensing authority said that it would predominantly trust users to obey the rules, and simply asks users to tick a box to say they have a licence.

      Under the Government's draft charter, also published in September 2016, the BBC was forced to carry out a review into the costs, feasibility and benefits of verification strategies to reduce licence-fee evasion.

      The draft charter also said that the BBC must publish the review of verification strategies by the end of 2020, and investigate whether verification processes could facilitate the removal of geo-blocking, so people could use iPlayer abroad.
      The TV Licensing authority said that it would predominantly trust users to obey the rules, and simply asks users to tick a box to say they have a licence.

      Many commentators agree that any strategy to catch those who are not paying should be encouraged.

      But there are fears that monitoring efforts will amount to snooping.

      Under the Government's draft charter, also published in September 2016, the BBC was forced to carry out a review into the costs, feasibility and benefits of verification strategies to reduce licence-fee evasion.

      It said: 'The BBC must carry out a review of the benefits, costs and feasibility of introducing a process to verify the users of on-demand programme services provided by the BBC.'

      The draft charter also said that the BBC must publish the review of verification strategies by the end of 2020, and investigate whether verification processes could facilitate the removal of geo-blocking, so people could use iPlayer abroad.

      Speaking at the time Tony Hall, the BBC's director-general, said: 'I want everyone to get the very best from the BBC.

      Tony Hall (pictured), the BBC's director-general, wants everyone to get the very best from the BBC

      'By learning about what you want and like we can take you to more of the great programmes you love, stories you might be interested in and content you might otherwise never have discovered.

      'This is a real transformation - reinventing public service broadcasting for the digital age.

      'Millions of people are already benefiting from this more personalised BBC, and by rolling it out for everyone no one will be left behind.'


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      Re: TV licence dodgers beware: BBC says PASSWORDS will be needed to access iPlayer content...

      How does that work, anyone can just create an id and password, just dumb.
      Just start running with adverts and sponsorship and stop this archaic license fee.

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      Re: TV licence dodgers beware: BBC says PASSWORDS will be needed to access iPlayer content...

      Good job I don't watch IPlayer then. To be honest I don't watch very much telly these days anyway. The TV companies are shooting themselves in the foot slowly but surely what with all the repeats and junk content and the silly rules and stuff.

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      Re: TV licence dodgers beware: BBC says PASSWORDS will be needed to access iPlayer content...

      Quote Originally Posted by lettice View Post
      How does that work, anyone can just create an id and password, just dumb.
      Just start running with adverts and sponsorship and stop this archaic license fee.
      May have to use your licence number to get an account thats the only way i would have thought.
      Its a pain because every-time you want to watch something you will have to log-in.
      you can guarantee itv and ch4/5 will jump on the band wagon to make you sign in.


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      Re: TV licence dodgers beware: BBC says PASSWORDS will be needed to access iPlayer content...

      Already running "previews" before content like netflix. I'm glad these idiot companies get ripped off left and right, remember when customer was king? No me neither!

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      Re: TV licence dodgers beware: BBC says PASSWORDS will be needed to access iPlayer content...

      If having a log-in means that I can watch iPlayer outside the UK then I have no objection to it.

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      Re: TV licence dodgers beware: BBC says PASSWORDS will be needed to access iPlayer content...

      A bit more on this how it may soon but now now linked to your tv license.

      Is this linked to my TV Licence?

      Another question some of you might be asking is whether any of these changes are linked to TV Licensing. Last year the law changed so you now need a TV licence to watch BBC programmes on iPlayer.

      The reason we’re making these changes isn’t about enforcing the licence fee – it’s about giving you a better BBC and helping you get the best out of it.

      We’ve also been clear that we’re not going to use mass surveillance techniques or ask internet providers for IP addresses. However, the information you provide us with can help TV Licensing ensure that people are abiding by the law and minimise licence fee evasion. By matching email addresses we may be able to identify someone who has told us they don't need a TV licence while at the same time having signed in and watched iPlayer. So we will now use this alongside our existing enforcement techniques to help identify people who are watching licence fee-funded content without a licence.

      Both the National Audit Office and Parliament’s Public Accounts Committee have focused on the need to reduce evasion recently. The Government has also asked us to consider whether a verification system is required for BBC iPlayer so that people who are not paying the fee cannot access licence fee-funded content for free. This is something we’re continuing to look at.

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      Re: TV licence dodgers beware: BBC says PASSWORDS will be needed to access iPlayer content...

      I've just hand my latest letter from TVL demanding that I pay them now.

      For the record this is an on-going issue I have with them. I pay my license in full each year. I've had enough of it, so I've simply requested that they take me to court and won't enter into any further communications with them.

      Why the mess? They keep changing the dates for which my license runs. They cancel the old one and start a new one. If were to follow their pattern I would have ended up paying more for the TV License than is due.

      P.S. I am up to date with my payments. The next payment is due at the end of June/beginning of July.

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      Re: TV licence dodgers beware: BBC says PASSWORDS will be needed to access iPlayer content...

      Quote Originally Posted by sdd View Post
      May have to use your licence number to get an account thats the only way i would have thought.
      Its a pain because every-time you want to watch something you will have to log-in.
      you can guarantee itv and ch4/5 will jump on the band wagon to make you sign in.
      The message states:
      You'll soon need to sign in to watch. It's quick & easy.

      And we'll keep you signed in.
      So once you have signed in for the first time it shouldn't be too onerous.
      There is also information about opting out though I suspect this will only relate to personalisation.

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      Re: TV licence dodgers beware: BBC says PASSWORDS will be needed to access iPlayer content...

      Quote Originally Posted by seawright View Post
      The message states:So once you have signed in for the first time it shouldn't be too onerous.
      There is also information about opting out though I suspect this will only relate to personalisation.
      Yeah but they are looking into verification which mean they will do it at some point or to be honest whats the point of it anyone will be able to watch iplayer might has well just left it as it was.

      (From lettice link)
      The Government has also asked us to consider whether a verification system is required for BBC iPlayer so that people who are not paying the fee cannot access licence fee-funded content for free. This is something we’re continuing to look at.


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