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    BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel

    This is a discussion on BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel within the Entertainment forums, part of the Community channel category; BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel While BT will begin charging Sky subscribers ...

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      BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel

      BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel
      While BT will begin charging Sky subscribers for access to Champions League football next season, the company may soon ask for more money from existing customers too. It's for a good reason, though: the company has said it will launch the first 4K channel in Europe in August, called BT Sport Ultra HD, delivering selected matches from the Premier League, FA Cup, Champions League and Aviva Premiership Rugby. As you'd expect, these broadcasts won't work on BT's existing hardware, so it'll introduce a new BT TV Ultra HD set-top box to do the heavy lifting.

      Details are scarce but we do know that it'll be BT's "best ever" Youview+ box and is capable of storing up to 600 SD hours or up to 250 HD hours on its 1TB hard drive. In February, reports suggested that the broadcaster had brought forward the launch of its new box in order to steal a march on Sky. It's believed that it could also share streams to smartphones and tablets, like EE TV, and let users access recordings while on the move. BT also says that Ultra HD content will only be available to BT Infinity subscribers.

      With BT soon to push 4K content, you can expect that Sky won't be too far behind. It too is said to be readying a new internet-connected 4K set-top box, but has yet to confirm plans. If you already own a 4K TV and intend to jump on BT's new hardware, the Community Shield will be the first match to be shown in Ultra HD when it kicks off in August.


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      Re: BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel

      Also heard too that the current set of 4k TVs will not be up to it either.
      So hold off on that new tv just yet.
      HD all over again.

      With so much more now watching on mobile, tablet on non TV, do wonder if 4k will have an impact.
      Many who have capable HD TVs still do not have any access to HD, and many seem to be dropping HD as its a premium. I keep thinking is HD really worth the 10 a month premium sometimes.
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      Re: BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel

      You've got to laugh at such a silly mistake.

      Surely they will have been testing it on TVs that are on sale? If not, then that should have been their first part of any beta testing.

      As for HD, there are two publish resolutions known as HD Ready (720p) and Full HD (1080i or 1080p).

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      Re: BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel

      Im done with TV
      Sick of the poor quality and stupid prices for 1970's picture quality
      TV Series Recorded in 1080P at 24 Hrz
      Scaled down to 720x480 and badly encoded with mpeg2 Telecined to 30hrz for the us market
      Scaled up from 720x480 to 720x576 for eu market
      FPS converted to 25hrz for europe as they where too lazy to go from the 24hrz source most of the time
      If they did go from the 24hrz source you end up with pal speed up
      Interlaced
      Transcoded yet again by Sky

      HDTV is no better they take the 24fps source and convert it to 25fps
      Transcoded by sky for sky equipment

      Im sure they will start the same old game with 4k

      I watch everything these days either Blu-ray (ripped to mkv) or web-dl
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      Re: BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      You've got to laugh at such a silly mistake.

      Surely they will have been testing it on TVs that are on sale? If not, then that should have been their first part of any beta testing.
      The marketing hype will always exist and those who are daft enough to take it will always buy twice.

      I'll still never get over the mess, remember when UK started the Black Friday? Frantically fighting over cheap TVs and pulling other peoples hair. People holding onto boxes laying/sliding over the floor not letting go and the police had to come in.

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      Re: BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel

      I have read that to appreciate the difference between UHD and HD you have to sit about 5 feet from a 60 inch TV. Not for me I'm afraid, I can see a lot of people ending up with Wimbledon neck.

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      Re: BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel

      Quote Originally Posted by Scubbie View Post
      You've got to laugh at such a silly mistake.
      Surely they will have been testing it on TVs that are on sale? If not, then that should have been their first part of any beta testing.
      Its always the way with being a new adopter of technology.
      The TVs from 2013/2014 may not be capable of processing a rate higher than 25fps and sports needs a higher rate for the 4k uhd broadcast. Movies and some lower end tv programmes may be ok.
      Some manufacturers have produced an add on kit, sort of workaround (500), but its flaky, so best to hold off until the uhd channels and new boxes arrive and the tv sets that are compatible are detailed.

      There still isn't a truly agreed minimum standard yet for uhd, so still some testing and changes there.

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      Re: BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel

      Quote Originally Posted by Isitme View Post
      I have read that to appreciate the difference between UHD and HD you have to sit about 5 feet from a 60 inch TV. Not for me I'm afraid, I can see a lot of people ending up with Wimbledon neck.
      For 8k, at 60 inch you can view the effect at 20 inches and at 90 inch its three feet. But we probably will not see 8k as a broadcast medium for sometime yet, but the next 8k cameras may be used to produce 4k content with downsampling producing cleaner 4k content.

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      Re: BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel

      Just for fun.
      Try this new 8k movie on youtube. You will obviously not see the true 8k effect, it will look much like a 4k youtube on any current pc monitor.
      Will test your download speed. Be warned it may whack your cpu temperature!
      Plays perfect for me on this Win8.1 desktop using chrome;
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      - 3.8GHZ, 4MB Cache, 4 Core, Socket FM2, 8Gb mem DDR3
      - AMD Radeon HD 7660D Display adapter

      What has been reported; it runs fine in chrome, but can stutter at first with firefox. Limited reports of it working with IE.
      Sky broadband and Virgin do well. BT/plusnet broadband users seem to struggle with it (assume that is BTs traffic management).
      You need a decent download speed, anything from 18mbps up has shown to work, adsl and fibre. Odd thing though, fibre customers who had download speeds around 35 - 50 had failures.
      I'm on sky broadband unlimited (adsl) with 23mbps download.

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      Re: BT's launching an Ultra HD box to host Europe's first 4K TV channel

      Quote Originally Posted by lettice View Post
      Just for fun.
      Try this new 8k movie on youtube. You will obviously not see the true 8k effect, it will look much like a 4k youtube on any current pc monitor.
      Will test your download speed. Be warned it may whack your cpu temperature!
      Plays perfect for me on this Win8.1 desktop using chrome;
      - AMD A10-5800k
      - 3.8GHZ, 4MB Cache, 4 Core, Socket FM2, 8Gb mem DDR3
      - AMD Radeon HD 7660D Display adapter

      What has been reported; it runs fine in chrome, but can stutter at first with firefox. Limited reports of it working with IE.
      Sky broadband and Virgin do well. BT/plusnet broadband users seem to struggle with it (assume that is BTs traffic management).
      You need a decent download speed, anything from 18mbps up has shown to work, adsl and fibre. Odd thing though, fibre customers who had download speeds around 35 - 50 had failures.
      I'm on sky broadband unlimited (adsl) with 23mbps download.

      Where did you hear this from? With BT, only 30Mb/s down because of signal loss to cabinet and this confirmed by Wholesale checker, 2 bro's sharing connection, and not even minisculely struggling in terms of bandwidth at peak times to load this video...

      http://www.speedtest.net/

      Must be busy... That's the good thing about BT... if those speed tests look ok then youtube will be ok

     

     
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