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Faulty Internal Wiring

I,ve recently experienced problems with mw broadband speeds and BT line quality (house is a new build couple of years old)

BT engineer has called and upgraded the faceplate to an ADSL, telling me the internal wiring is at fault - when the master socket is used no problems are detected. He tells me if I connect using a wireless connection, plugging the router directly into the new socket the faulty wiring will be bypassed.

This advice appears to be crap as the extensions as far as I can see are connected to the new facplate.

Is ther a means to check which extension is at fault or do I need someone qualified to check the internal wiring

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Re: Faulty Internal Wiring

if you get a better connection in your 'test' socket then in your master then that'll prove your internal wiring to be at fault...
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Re: Faulty Internal Wiring

If you are still experiencing problems after they have fitted an ADSL faceplate then check that they have only connected wires from the extensions to pins 2 and 5 of the faceplate because other connections from the extension wiring may cause problems.
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Re: Faulty Internal Wiring

Hi Tom.
The BT guy was right, if a filter faceplate cures the problem then the fault lies with your internal wiring. Where that fault lies within the wiring, or if it is the wiring itself (many new homes have their telephone sockets wired by site electricians with the wrong type of cable which works for telephony but not for broadband) is anyones guess.
If you have a filter faceplate do not remove the ring wire (the one connected to 3 on the faceplate) many modern telephones require this to operate correctly, not just old dial phones.
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Re: Faulty Internal Wiring

Folks thanks for the help, the only way I can get a connection is to remove the wiring from the back of the facplate i.e all 3 and have a pnone and the router connected to the faceplate.

This appears to disconnect the internal phone sockets/wiring and resolves the issue. Everthing has prev been working fine for about 12 mths and the fault has only recently developed, I,ve prev consulted the site and removed the no. 3 ring wire from all the sockets and the speed doubled, but now its crashed.

Is there anyway of cheking what it is or do I need an electrician ?


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Re: Faulty Internal Wiring

If you are using a filter faceplate at the master (the one with two sockets for router and phone) and this works with your internal wiring disconnected, then look for a fault with the internal wiring. As you have been at your sockets to dissconnect the ring wire, I would check them to ensure that all secure. As you are now using a filter faceplate and I assume no other plug in filters, you may need to re-connect the ring line so that your phones operate correctly.
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Re: Faulty Internal Wiring

Thanks for the advice

Sorry for bugging you, do I need to reconnect the no. 3 at all my extension faceplates now I have a filtered faceplate fitted or just at the master socket
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Re: Faulty Internal Wiring

Yes all the sockets. sorry. While you are at it have a look at them and make sure all the connections are firm and not loose in any way.
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Re: Faulty Internal Wiring

Regards the filtered master faceplate, SKY tell me I still need filters at all other extension facplates I,m using, is this the case
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Re: Faulty Internal Wiring

Not if you pre-filter from the main socket.
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